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Posted Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:25:09 GMT by Darrin Dickinson
I am purchasing LL72271 and the vendors solicitor should have requested the title map to be updated as a part of the property is not showing in the Title Plan.
Could you confirm progress please as our buyers are putting pressure on our side to complete - this is a CPO with our property so we do not have a lot of time.
Posted Thu, 28 Mar 2024 13:55:38 GMT by Adam Hookway
Hi Darrin - nothing pending against that title number. If they have submitted anything then they should have a reference to quote alongside the title number itself.
Often, where there's a bit missing from a registered title there are two ways of approaching it
The first is that an error was made on registration and they would submit a request to Amend the title and explain why they thought it was 'incorrect' 
The second is an actual application to register the 'missing land' as the error was actually in the conveyancing at the time of first registration or the owner has extended the property to include additional land
Neither has as yet happened at our end
Posted Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:32:39 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Thank you for confirming.

We will consult the other party to find out what is going on as we had been told they had requested to expedite the registration of the unregistered missing land that sits between LL72271 and LL262029 - this strip has been a part of LL72271 since it was built and certainly since the current owner purchased the property in 2007. Could you confirm if there is any title number that this could be covered by as nothing seems to show it registered and your Mapsearch Snapshot shows it as unregistered, but other searches such as Local Land Charges official search Reference: 000 182 226 shows a different boundry 

 

Posted Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:06:09 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Just for clarity Local Land Charges official search Reference: 000 182 226 shows the property boundary as it is in reality - the fences and walls are in the exact position as the fences and walls are built. our your Mapsearch Snapshot shows that the end wall of the house sits outside of or forms the property boundary where it is adjacent to LL262029 whereas LL72271  shows a gap that is not possible in reality.

Posted Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:28:34 GMT by Adam Hookway
Darrin - please do check with the other party. As posted there is no pending application to register the land you refer to. If they have submitted one then they would have a provisional title number and a HMLR case (ABR) reference.
Local Land Charges do not define the registered extent or general boundaries. And MapSearch is not definitive either as it is a service used to enable users to find registered title numbers with which they can then view the register and title plan as appropriate. The title plan will then show the registered extent and general boundaries.
If you look at the title plan for LL72271 you will see the registered extent and the clear gap between the physical feature mapped by Ordnance Survey pre-1991 and the registered extent as mapped by ourselves in 1991. 
But please do check and confirm with the other party what they have or are actually doing re the title
Posted Tue, 02 Apr 2024 11:31:51 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Thanks we are checking with the vendors to see what is going on. 

Posted Mon, 08 Apr 2024 08:56:11 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

The Vendor has confirmed his solicitor has now processed paperwork and requested the process is to be expedited - are you able to give any update on the situation please?

Posted Mon, 08 Apr 2024 09:14:42 GMT by Adam Hookway
Darrin - nothing submitted against LL72271 as yet. If and when they do, and if it's an application that they then expedite, please ask them to confirm the title number and our (ABR) case reference for certainty
Posted Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:33:50 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

It seems the vendor was getting some supporting evidence to his solicitor and didnt know they were awaiting this before submitting. We have been told this has now been done and the solicitor is requesting to expedite today but we havent received the case reference yet.  

Posted Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:21:39 GMT by Adam Hookway
Hi Darrin - it can often be that way re comms but now received (10AM today)
LL72271 - L281SJT
Expedition will reduce the wait time before processing starts but it won;t act as a magic wand re it then being completed. 
It looks like it involves a claim based on adverse possession and as such they do take time to process as they have to be in order, a site visit arranged and often wider checks carried out with adjoining/affected owners. 
So even with expedition and a short initial wait time your are still looking at several weeks, if all goes well, before it's likely to be completed I suspect
Posted Wed, 10 Apr 2024 14:50:35 GMT by Darrin Dickinson
Hi Adam,
Thanks for confirming this - hopefully it can be resolved quickly!
Posted Mon, 15 Apr 2024 09:18:30 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Good Morning 

has there been any progress with this application?

is a site visit going to be necessary and if so has a date been fixed yet?

Posted Mon, 15 Apr 2024 09:44:57 GMT by Adam Hookway
G M Darrin - nothing to update as yet. Hopefully next steps will be known before the end of the week once the initial consideration has taken place. But these things do take time, even with expedition. 
Posted Thu, 18 Apr 2024 12:02:24 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Hi Adam

Is there any progress with this application?

Posted Thu, 18 Apr 2024 14:13:02 GMT by Adam Hookway
Hi Darrin - we needed a number of things from the conveyancer and contacted them on the 17th. They replied same day and the case is now back with the casework team for a further review. Next steps should include the need for a site visit/survey so the owner and conveyancer will be contacted to arrange that as stage 2 in the process
The site visit is carried out by Ordnance Survey who then arrange a visit and report back to us on their findings. 
Generally speaking OS are able to visit within 2 weeks of such an arrangement is made.
I'll contact the casework team to ask them to get the letters out asap
LL428073 
Posted Fri, 19 Apr 2024 15:12:01 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Hi Adam

Thanks for confirming, has the site visit been booked now?

Best regards

Darrin

Posted Sat, 20 Apr 2024 05:06:55 GMT by Adam Hookway
Hi Darrin - we don't book the visit. That's done between the applicant and OS. But as I said that need hasn't been confirmed as yet
Posted Wed, 24 Apr 2024 09:33:57 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Hello Adam

Is there any update, is a site visit needed or will it not be necessary?

Posted Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:32:01 GMT by Adam Hookway
Hello Darrin - a survey will be required and confirmation was issued to the conveyancer and owner yesterday
LL428073 
Posted Mon, 29 Apr 2024 10:31:42 GMT by Darrin Dickinson

Hello Adam

Thanks for confirming, are you able to confirm when the survey is booked to happen.

Assuming the existing boundaries are verified as incorrect on the current mapping but the vendor has proven adverse possession during his and previous vendors ownership what will be the next steps?

Many Thanks

Darrin

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