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Expedited TP1 Application
Expedited TP1 Application
Posted
Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:11:07 GMT
by
Hayley Brecken
Hi
We are at the end of the process buying a new house and selling ours.
When we purchased the property it came with an additional strip of land that couldn't be transferred to us until the 2nd phase of the development. This was then transferred and finalised. When we have come to sell the land the drawing has been slightly marked up incorrectly and there is a tiny strip of land inbetween meaning the two parts of land don't exactly meet.
The original solicitors agreed that this was the case and the land developers at the time where happy to transfer it to us to make it sellable.
This has been sent and expedited with the land registry. LL431685, ABR No. ME69645, I believe it was looked at by a case worker but now has been referred to a senior officer.
Can you tell us what is going on and why what seems to be a simple case is now been referred to a senior officer. we have been told that this now resets the 10 day response clock ,we are at our wits ends in fear of losing both the purchase and sale.
Any help you can give us would be greatly appreciated.
Posted
Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:18:42 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hi Hayley - it was received on the 24th and expedited on the 27th. Expedition generally means that the case gets to the processing start line within the 10 days quoted.
Unfortunately the seller/transferor's title has a number of prior pending applications against it which will need to be considered before the 'simple' application can be processed.
When that happens the cases have to be reviewed by the casework team and I suspect that is where the 'senior officer' mention has come into play. It certainly needs to be considered as part of that bigger picture and then decisions made as to whether those other applications impact and prevent progress being made
Hopefully a decision on that score will be made asap but nothing resets the 10 day response clock you mention so I am unsure where you have got your information from as it wouldn't be the terminology I would use myself.
I'll check on the case and update you later as appropriate when I have something concrete to share
LL431685
Posted
Mon, 04 Nov 2024 13:47:07 GMT
by
Hayley Brecken
Hi Adam
Thanks for your prompt response. If the prior applications are just for land to be registered and they have no impact on our property is this a quick turn around?
Our solicitor indicated this was a straight forward transaction but doesn't feel that way and is frustrating that this was no fault of our own.
Posted
Tue, 05 Nov 2024 07:15:21 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hi Hayley - that's the big Q that the casework team will need to consider as posted. It can happen but the devil will be int he detail as what can appear to be simple in one regard may not be so simple from a registration perspective.
From a conveyancing perspective it can be very simple to complete but that's just one part of the process. If there was nothing else pending already then the simplicity might carry through but that's not the case here.
The solicitor will I am sure have checked on what the prior applications are and how they impact so hopefully they are correct
I'm sure that if it can be processed out of order then the casework team will do that and everything then hinges on the actual application being in order as well of course
LL431685
Posted
Tue, 05 Nov 2024 07:24:48 GMT
by
Hayley Brecken
Thanks Adam
We were told it was just a technicality as we are the legal owners of the land either side of the tiny strip and there aren't any boundaries with anybody else's land. So I'm hopeful that this will get resolved quickly.
Can you tell if somebody is actually looking at this or is it just sitting in another queue.
Appreciate your help with this.
Posted
Tue, 05 Nov 2024 07:29:40 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hayley - that's fine and noted/appreciated. It is being processed - I have checked and have also flagged the expressed urgency. Let's hope that like your solicitor states, that it is as simple as described.
LL431685
Posted
Tue, 05 Nov 2024 07:40:16 GMT
by
Hayley Brecken
Thanks Adam
Fingers crossed, as this is causing us a great amount of angst for something that was a mistake between the solicitor and LR when we purchased.
Really grateful for your help, you seem to be the only one I can get a straight answer from.
Posted
Tue, 05 Nov 2024 08:53:49 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hayley - agree re keeping things crossed safe in the knowledge that it is progressing at our end so not simply waiting in a Q
I do appreciate how stressful such things can be but if you can bear with us and wait for me to post again that would be helpful. But if you need to post again for any reason then feel free to do so - I will do my best to manage your expectations whilst I wait for more from my casework colleagues
LL431685
Posted
Wed, 06 Nov 2024 07:18:56 GMT
by
Hayley Brecken
Good Morning Adam
Firstly apologies as I know you asked me to bear with you and you would post when there is an update but following another day of no progress and a sleepless night I am just reaching out to see if there is any further information you can give us.
We are under an extreme amount of pressure as the chain all has a date of the 18th November to move and have booked various removals, utilities etc.
The only issue was that the drawing was marked up slightly wrong (somewhere between the solicitor and LR) the land was ours and has been since 2021. The others that where in the queue in front of us are all just for registering properties for the first time and do not even have a boundary with the tiny strip of land (a rulers width) in the middle of garden.
Is there anything we can do to get this resolved or find out the name of the case worker it is sitting with so our solicitors can have a conversation with them?
Any help you could give us would be greatly appreciated.
Posted
Wed, 06 Nov 2024 08:08:16 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Good Morning Hayley - I am sorry re another poor night's sleep. I'll answer your actual Q first but also add a bit more which may appear blunt and harsh it's certainly not intended to be so but simply an honest explanation based on experience re dealing with similar posts/threads and stressful scenarios
I do understand the stress involved and in some ways it's also something others using the forum might benefit from when also looking for simple answers to something that's not as simple as perhaps advised/told to date.
The application has been expedited. I have also flagged it with the casework team re the urgency. I have also been in direct contact with them and await their further update, which I hope will be a positive one - however I am not going to try and be definitive re timescales as if they prove to be inaccurate the issues mount for you.
Such 'simple' cases often require referral/confirmation from a senior officer, as in this case, to confirm what is going to happen. That may appear overly onerous or complex to some but very necessary if such things are to be put right in the way requested.
There is no 'telephone conversation' that will resolve such matters so having the name of a specific caseworker would have no positive result and in reality simply delays them from processing the application. It's why we have support channels such as phone, email and this forum so that the casework team can actually get on with processing the urgent cases as quickly as possible. Registration relies almost entirely on legal deeds/application forms, the written word and resource/focus. Not a telephone conversation that won;t alter the legal/registration requirements .
You refer to 'the only issue' and 'slightly wrong' and 'others in the queue' and I fear that the you are of the belief that such things are extremely simple to resolve. Sadly in registration, and legal terms, they are not.
The issue here tends to be that when the 'error' was it seems made in 2021 nobody either noticed it and/or did anything about it until the sharp end of the next sale/purchase was reached and dates for completion etc agreed. Sadly when an 'error' is then spotted nobody adjusts that timescale and expects things to be 'simple' and easily resolved - that is very rarely, at least in my experience, the case especially where 'errors' are seen as being 'simple' ones
I will post again as soon as I have something concrete and directly meaningful to the actual progress of the application.
I have a note to keep checking for updates/progress and hopefully you can trust me to do that for you
LL431685
Posted
Wed, 06 Nov 2024 08:16:04 GMT
by
Hayley Brecken
As always thanks for the prompt response.
I appreciate your honesty and help and will await your post.
Posted
Wed, 06 Nov 2024 08:54:41 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hayley - thank you for being so understanding in such difficult circumstances for you
LL431685
Posted
Wed, 06 Nov 2024 14:47:15 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hayley - good news at last for you as the application has been completed, the new registered information made available online and the conveyancer informed
I trust you can now move forward positively and hopefully also catch up on the missed sleep
Posted
Wed, 06 Nov 2024 15:02:14 GMT
by
Hayley Brecken
That's fantastic news
I really appreciate all your help, it's such a weight off our minds
Thank you so much.
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