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Posted Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:03:48 GMT by Faisal Sadique
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this. Me, my brother and sister have Inherited family property. We are splitting the property unequally to give my sister 2/3 of the house and me and my brother will get 1/6 each. My uncle is the executor of the will. We are completing forms ourselves. We have ID1/ID5 forms, official grant of probate, AS1, AP1 form and a declaration of trust. I have questions about the certain panels of the AS1/AP1 forms in particular. Please see below - Question 1) AS1 panel 10 - We have selected third option - “They are to hold the property on trust:” and will write underneath: The transferees are to hold the property on trust for themselves as tenants in common in the following unequal beneficial shares: My name : 1/6 Brothers name: 1/6 Sisters name : 2/3 Is that wording correct and should I use percentages instead of fractions? Does it matter? Question 2) AP1 panel 15 - does it require only my signature as the person submitting the application in panel 7 or should it include signatures of all beneficiaries in panel 6? The GOV Guidance says all applicant from panel 6 but it has been very commonly suggested on this forum that it’s the applicant from panel 7. Quesiton 3) Do I need to send death certificate or is Official Grant of probate sufficient? If I have originals do I need them notarised?
Posted Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:30:21 GMT by Adam Hookway
Faisal - Panel 10 that's fine and it does not matter. They are your words to choose. Panel 15 should be signed by the person(s) named in panel 6 Just the certified copy of the probate is needed. Do not send original.
Posted Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:04:57 GMT by Faisal Sadique
Thank you for the reply Adam. I have several originals of the Grant of Probate that I ordered when making the application. I am happy to send one of them off with the application and not expect to get it back rather than pay to have a copy certified. Is that ok or will an original just not be accepted? Also death certificate not neccesary? 3 more question if thats ok - Question 1) AP1 panel 14 (2) - Evidence of Identity - i have crossed both both boxes as to cover me and my siblings listed in panel 6 and to also cover my uncle the transferor/executor. My uncle is only mentioned in panel 14 (1) as the transferor. Is that correct? Question 2) Is doing a seperate Declartaion of Trust documents outlining our shares of the property something that is done quite commonly? Is it neccessary or do the Land registry just accept the split of shares as mentioned in the AS1 panel 10? Question 3) when sending off ID1 forms and ID5 forms do they all need to be originals with 'wet signatures' or are copies of them ok?
Posted Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:19:36 GMT by Adam Hookway
Faisal - that's fine as we can accept official copies of the probate. We don't require the death certificate. Please see our online guidance re how to complete form AP1 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/completing-the-evidence-of-identity-panels-on-forms-ap1-fr1-ds2#form-ap1
Posted Tue, 21 Jul 2026 15:20:52 GMT by Adam Hookway
Re the Declaration of Trust - that is quite common and it is often drawn up for clarity amongst the parties involved. We don't need to see the declaration of trust itself. We need the original identity forms
Posted Tue, 21 Jul 2026 16:07:10 GMT by Faisal Sadique
Thanks again Adam and so sorry to ask more questions. These forms are quite complicated! I can only ask for you patience. 1) I have read the guidance. I am still unclear. The guidance you linked says "The second part of this panel only needs to be completed in cases where a discharge or release of a mortgage in paper form DS1 or form DS3 is being lodged with the application." - Is this suggesting that if I am not lodging DS1/DS3 forms with the application (which i am not) then 14 (2) evidence of identity does need to be completed? 2) if that isnt the case and 14 (2) does need to be completed. The guidance says "You only need to cross the first box (‘for each applicant named in panel 6 is enclosed’) if the applicant shown in panel 6 of your form is different to any of the persons named in panel 14." - the applicants in panel 6 are me, my brother and sister. In panel 14 it is me, my brother, my sister AND my uncle (executor/transferor). This to me suggest i shouldnt tick the first box? As the three of us in Panel 6 are also named in Panel 14. My uncle being an additional person in Panel 14 does not, by itself, mean that the applicants in Panel 6 are “different to” the persons named in Panel 14. I should tick the second box as we have written 'none' in the second column of the above panels as we have not used conveyancors. We had our ID1/ID5 forms completed by a notary and submitting forms ourselves. 3) RE Declaration of trust - does that mean we shouldnt send it with the application forms? Also eneded the sentence saying 'We need the original identity forms' - was this referring to my questions about needing to provide the ID1/ID5 with 'wet singatures' or something different regardign the declaration of trust? 4) Witnesses - Can fiances/wives be witnsesses so long as they are not benefieciaries of the estate? So sorry again for all the questions!

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