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Posted Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:34:47 GMT by Iain Ayres
Hi there are 2 executors and 1 beneficiary the executor's are myself and any on other family member just having trouble with panels on AS1 7 panel 11 and panel15 on AP1  panel 1 meaning post code and panel 7 and panel 9 and what to put down in panel 11 can you help me with this?
Posted Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:43:08 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - I can't really follow which forms with which panels. 
The forms online have notes to help you complete them
Guidance: how to complete form AS1 - GOV.UK and
Guidance: completing form AP1 - GOV.UK
But if you've tried those and still have Qs can you perhaps bullet point the Qs for me please?
Posted Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:54:16 GMT by Iain Ayres
On Form AS1 panel is says Transferee's intended  address for service for entry in the register. What address do i use the house im living in now which is the same house in question.

Still on AS1 panel 11 states addition provisions
Still on As1 do i just sign or both executors.

Form AP! panel one full postcode of property is the house in question
still AP1 panel 7 says This application is sent to land registry by is that just myself or both executors

AP1 panel 9 says The address for service for each proprietor of the registered estate to be entered in the register is,im living at the same property.

AP1 panel 12 Execution how do i fill that out do both executors and the 1 beneficiary 

hope that makes more sense
Posted Thu, 20 Mar 2025 13:25:18 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - whichever contact address the transferee wants to be used for future correspondence (if any)
AS1 panel 11 - complete if there are any additional provisions to be included. There aren't any usually
AS1 execution by all those included in the AS1
AP1 panel 1 - correct
AP1 panel 7 - whoever is submitting the actual application completes with their own details as appropriate. 
AP1 panel 9 is for the new owners contact address again
AP1 doesn't have an execution panel. Panel 12 should be completed re your not being a conveyancer. Panel 14 then needs completing re each party as appropriate, namely 2 executors and beneficiary
If you are unsure as to what is required re the forms and their impact then please do seek legal advice/assistance as appropriate. The guidance we provide via the links as posted is the limit of what we can assist with 
 
Posted Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:39:26 GMT by Iain Ayres
Thank you i understand it abit better now but a quick one on panel 15 on AS1 i to be signed by both executors, as for panel 9 then its the top option then as im already living in the house Thats on AP1, sorry just another quick one can only one executor fill either form out or does it have to be both on both forms. Thank yo so much for your help i you are limited to what you can help.
Posted Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:46:01 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - there is no panel 15 on form AS1 so I assume you mean form AP1
Form AP1 is the application form and panel 15 should be signed by whoever is making the application, namely as named in panel 7 of the same form AP1
Panel 9 of form AP1 - if the new owner is living in the actual property then the first tick box should be used
JuUst one executor can complete form AP1 and submit the application
Both executors have to execute the form AS1 as it is the legal deed
Posted Thu, 20 Mar 2025 17:56:28 GMT by Iain Ayres
So on panel 14 of AP1 where it says Name of transferor, transferee  do i have put the other executors name there as a transferor as well as myself then just myself as the transferee so 3 in total or would just 2 be enough then i just sign on panel 15 of the same form, again i know you can help with so much but its becoming more clearer now and thank so much again for all your help
Posted Fri, 21 Mar 2025 07:05:03 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - you have to list all the names separately, yes. And if you are the one who is applying then it's just you to sign and date panel 15
Posted Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:13:06 GMT by Iain Ayres
Hi what value do i put on AP1 panel 4, Do i put the gross value or the net value on the grant of probate, or the value of the property itself, I know you mite not be able to help with this but just thought would try anyway.

Thank You in advance  
Posted Tue, 25 Mar 2025 13:14:54 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - you need to state the full current market value of the property 
Posted Tue, 25 Mar 2025 14:10:03 GMT by Iain Ayres
Thank you that made things a lot easier now. Just 1 last question and that's it on AS! panel 12 do i write signed as a deed by the executors and then witnessed by does the witness have put there address or just there name like the executors.
Posted Tue, 25 Mar 2025 14:45:28 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - see the link already provided Guidance: how to complete form AS1 - GOV.UK
This explains how the deed should be executed including the details the witness needs to include in their attestation
Posted Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:15:58 GMT by Iain Ayres
Hi sorry about this but i have nearly completed the forms but just have just 1 question in panel 5 of AP1  Documents lodged if there are 2 ID3 forms do you have put ID3 twice or just the once for both persons that need to send the ID3 forms As 2 ID3 forms will sent as AS1 has both Executors are named in  AS1, So just to make sure both ID3 will be sent.

Thank You so much for getting me this close to complete the forms
Posted Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:17:29 GMT by Adam Hookway

Iain - ID3 x 2

Posted Thu, 17 Jul 2025 09:17:29 GMT by Iain Thompson
The instructions for sending in the AS1 and AP1 forms say they should be sent with "an official copy of the probate". The grant of probate I need was issued in 1994 and I don't have an original. I applied for a copy from the probate office, which I now have, but does this count as an "official copy" for the purpose of registering the AS1 and AP1 
Posted Thu, 17 Jul 2025 09:23:09 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - yes if you applied for and obtained it from the probate office. They, like a lot of agencies, can issue official copies for this very purpose to enable people to keep the original safe and use the official copy for 'official' business. 
Posted Fri, 18 Jul 2025 13:37:13 GMT by Iain Thompson
Could you please help me with the registration fee for a property worth £275,000 on the open market. It is being inherited as part of an estate. I've approached 2 different solicitors and they have given me very different figures. In other words, what figure(s) should go in section 4 of the AP1 form. Many thanks
Posted Fri, 18 Jul 2025 13:42:05 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - if you are applying to register an Assent then you should complete panel 4 of form AP1 to refer to Assent > £275,000 and pay the Scale 2 registration fee of £100 as you are applying by post
HM Land Registry: Registration Services fees - GOV.UK
Posted Sat, 19 Jul 2025 07:32:49 GMT by Iain Thompson

Thank you Adam , helpful as ever. Did you consider this to be a scale 2 fee because it would come under the classification of :

Transfers or assents of registered estates not for monetary consideration.

In which case can I check a detail. At the moment the property in question has no title number, so panel 1 on the AS1 form will be blank. Does this impact whether it would be scale 1 or scale 2?

Posted Sat, 19 Jul 2025 09:52:09 GMT by Adam Hookway
Iain - if the property is unregistered then it will impact as the registration fee for a first registration is assessed under Scale 1 and not Scale 2

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