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Adverse possession
Posted
Fri, 17 Oct 2025 09:40:23 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
After inheriting my father’s estate in July 2025 we discovered that the estate was not registered. There is also a small strip of land on the estate which does not belong to us because it once formed part of a large farm at the other side of the village. Our family has lived there for over 70 years and has used this strip as an integral part of the the family land. Nobody in the family ever knew about it not belonging to them.After. Contacting the County Council who own the land they said they wouldn’t stand in our way to own it.<br> However LR have said that there are two prior lease applications to lease the farm land on the other side of the village and because our little strip is part of the whole estate they must deal with those two applications before us.<br> The house has been empty for 9 months already and we are incurring costs to maintain it.<br> How do we convince LR that we need to sell the house and do not want to wait possibly years before the two leases are completed?<br>  
Answer
Posted
Fri, 17 Oct 2025 09:48:58 GMT
by
Nimish Patel
Bryony - Where there are a number of applications against a specific title, t<span style="font-size:11pt;"><span style="line-height:107%;"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;">he statutes that govern us require that we process applications in the priority order that they are submitted to us. This is to ensure that any rights granted on a prior application are then reflected against the subsequent applications.<br> <br> If the delay in registration is causing you difficulties or holding up a further transaction then the applicants or the person / firm who submitted the application can <a href="https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-an-expedite">request to expedite</a> it.   <br> <br> When we approve to expedite an application in situations where there are prior applications, if there is a work-around by which we can process a later application out of order, then we will look into adopting that to assist the customer.  Where there is no work-around we can adopt, then we will hasten the prior applications with the aim of completing them as soon as possible. </span></span></span></span><br> <span style="font-size:11pt;"><span style="line-height:107%;"><span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;">  <br> I hope this helps. </span></span></span></span>
Posted
Wed, 22 Oct 2025 19:40:59 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
Many thanks. I will ask my solicitor to ask LR to expedite it, although he has already asked. The house has started to develop damp, we cannot even let the house because the driveway is part of the adverse possession claim, we have to insure it, and pay all of the utility costs and travel miles to check on the house.<br>  
Posted
Thu, 23 Oct 2025 05:51:01 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Bryony - if they have already requested expedition then processing will have started but as it includes an adverse possession claim then that will still take time to process/complete. <br> Such claims invariably mean three separate stages, namely consideration by our lawyers, a site visit/survey and then wider checks. That can take 2-3 months minimum as expedition gets the case to the processing start line quicker but does not mean it can be completed within a short timescale.<br> The request to expedite is enough to 'convince us' of the urgency but we still have to comply with the legal and registration requirements<br> Suggest you ask the conveyancer to confirm the provisional title number and our case (ABR) reference and we can check again to see what progress has been made to date
Posted
Fri, 31 Oct 2025 09:23:38 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
Many thanks Adam. I have asked my solicitor to request expedition again.<br> The first lease application is still not resolved in a year. There is a second lease application after that which might take another year. (Neither have anything to do with our driveway) Then as you say our adverse possession could take months so we are looking at possibly 3 years before we can market the house.<br> my biggest worry is burglary or vandalism because we don’t live near. We can’t go abroad on holiday because there is nobody else to check on the house properly. An absolute nightmare!
Posted
Fri, 31 Oct 2025 09:54:30 GMT
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Adam Hookway
Bryony - all noted and appreciated. If prior applications are 'in the way' of an expedite we should hasten them as well. Everything then hinges on them being in order though so some delay can still exist but it shouldn't be anywhere near the 3 years you refer to
Posted
Fri, 31 Oct 2025 16:50:29 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
<p>Once again Adam. Many thanks for your support. </p>
Posted
Fri, 31 Oct 2025 17:40:30 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
<p>Hi Adam</p> <p>Is it possible for me to post the ABR number and case number here? For security reasons I would be reluctant but if it would assist you to give me further advice I would do so.</p> <p>what is the usual procedure?</p> <p></p> <p>many thanks </p>
Posted
Sat, 01 Nov 2025 08:32:48 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hi Bryony - you can share the title number/ABR here if you wish to. Many do but entirely your choice
Posted
Tue, 04 Nov 2025 13:47:27 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
<p>Hi Adam</p> <p></p> <p>The reference number is 251016-5311197</p> <p>Title number BM21962</p> <p></p> <p>would this help to shed any light on the situation?</p> <p></p> <p>many thanks in advance</p> <p>Bryony</p>
Posted
Wed, 05 Nov 2025 07:52:44 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hi Bryony - many thanks. That relates to a pending first registration and accompanying transfer of part. The cases are expedited but as you state delayed in part by prior applications affecting the landlord/seller's title <br> The main delay though has been the fact that the complexities involved re the actual application mean that it's been on referral to our lawyers to decide next steps. <br> I'll check with the casework team for an update and share once I have something concrete to offer in reply<br> BM481734 
Posted
Wed, 05 Nov 2025 08:44:57 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hi again Bryony - the casework team advise that there are still issues to resolve re the 'claimed' land that forms part of the application. Once resolved it is very likely they will then need to complete wider checks with adjoining/affected landowners to confirm no objections to the registration <br> I can't be definitive re timescales but based on the above we are still looking at 4-6 weeks potentially before matters might be resolved. That is very much just an estimate <br> BM481734 
Posted
Wed, 05 Nov 2025 20:09:31 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
<p>This information is so helpful. Many many thanks to you Adam.</p> <p> Fingers crossed that by Spring we can settle everything and give my parents home the resolution that they would want for their beloved house.</p> <p>If you need any more details from me please just ask.</p> <p>Bryony</p>
Posted
Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:06:41 GMT
by
Julie Slesser
Hi<br> <br> Can anyone advise if they have experienced anything similar to our current situation.<br> <br> we are currently purchasing a property and the title deed shows a small triangle at back of garden is not registered on the plan. our solicitor has advised we proceed with adverse possession claim once completed. This is owned by the builders who originally built the property and it was them who erected the garden fence 21 years ago. The builders went out of business 10 years ago. <br> <br> How likely will the claim be? <br> <br> Any information appreciated. <br> <br> Thanks Julie.
Posted
Thu, 13 Nov 2025 07:04:13 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hi Julie - see our PG 4 for guidance <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/adverse-possession-of-registered-land">Adverse possession of registered land (PG4) - GOV.UK</a> <br> And rely on your legal rep to confirm if the legal requirements can be met re such a claim - the key requirement, if you are buying, is to ensure that the seller's provide the statement of truth required to back up the claim from their use/ownership of the land to date
Posted
Wed, 04 Feb 2026 15:19:48 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
<p>Hi Adam</p> <p>I hope you are well and once again, many thanks for your previous information.<br> Bryony here again. It is now 3 months since we last communicated and approximately 9 months since our adverse possession claim for the small strip of land on my deceased father’s estate.</p> <p>the house has already deteriorated and consequently the estate is worth £70,000 less. We are paying for repairs and utilities etc.</p> <p>We are still waiting for the application for a lease (doesn’t have anything to do with our strip of land) to be resolved and we are second in the queue. This application has already taken a year and seems to be being allowed to continue indefinitely. My solicitor warns me that this can happen often, although I can’t understand why this is allowed if there are others waiting in the queue.</p> <p>Our problem is no communication from the LR about an approximate time frame so we can market the house and give a buyer a definite time frame. Our solicitor has written recently but no reply as yet.</p> <p>would you be able to shed any light on this?<br>  </p> <p>Bryony</p>
Posted
Wed, 04 Feb 2026 17:02:14 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hi again Bryony - I am sorry that the issues remain. Unfortunately 'priority' order can impact in this way although your application is a complex one so I would not put it into the 'it can o0ften happen' category. Looking at the application itself I can see that it has bene referred to one of our lawyers and that the casework team will be writing out to your conveyancer shortly. Hopefully that will shed more light on what's happening and what happens next. I'll flag with the casework team to ensure that is issued asap. BM481734
Posted
Wed, 04 Feb 2026 20:27:06 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
<p>Thank you again Adam </p> <p>It is worrying to hear that our case is deemed to be complex as we are led to believe that it is a case of claiming adverse possession because the family has lived there for over 60 years and used the piece of land as part of the family day to day life.</p> <p>On a positive note, I am glad that the lawyer will be contacting us shortly.</p> <p>I would be really grateful if you hear any more news.</p>
Posted
Thu, 26 Feb 2026 17:26:47 GMT
by
Bryony Edwards
Hello again Adam, The Land Registry have discovered after 9 months that the strip of land in question has always belonged to our estate since 1920, but in the 1960s an error was made by attributing it to Grange Farm(now Bucks CC). We have in the meantime not been able to sell the house nor register it. My solicitor has been asked to send in an application of alteration to the Land Registry. This was done over two weeks ago.There has been a delay in sending it to Bucks CC who will have 15 days to approve it. In the meantime a buyer has given me an offer for the house which I’d like to accept. I still cannot legally sell it. Is there anyway of finding out what the delay is? Dad’s house has dropped in value of £80,000 because of the 9 months it has taken to discover the error. I need to sell the house before it deteriorates any further. Any help on a timescale would be so helpful. Many thanks for all you have done already. Bryony BM481734
Posted
Fri, 27 Feb 2026 07:19:06 GMT
by
Adam Hookway
Hello again Bryony - the case is with our lawyers at present so I will see if I can get an update and escalate it also<br> BM481734
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